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23 September 2005 @ 08:28 pm
Here it is by popular request  
Hi everyone. I don’t remember if I ever posted an introduction so I’m going to do one or another one which ever it is.
~My name is criofan and I’m a Kitsune. I was Kitsune before being Kitsune was trendy and I don’t feel the need to hide that fact just because everyone thinks that Kitsune are Kawaii. If they really understood Kitsune they wouldn’t think so because every one I know is moody bitchy and very high maintaince. But that’s neither here nor there. The point is that we as Kitsune should be ourselves a not let anyone beat us around because they think we are trendy.
~I not only embrace my Asian ancestry as a Kitsune but I am also very connected to the Celtic culture. Which at times causes some issues when both cultures pull me in their ways. I am now questing to try to find a balance between the two.
tengu_kakushi on September 24th, 2005 12:46 am (UTC)
I have to disagree with the kitsune comment. My sweety is a kitsune, and he is quite kind and low maitence. :>

People will be people. Just because some people popped up after it was "popular" doesn't make them any less valid of a fox, imo. Sometimes pop culture exposes one to something and leads them down a path to realize who they are more so them making them who they are.
kinjouten on September 24th, 2005 05:15 pm (UTC)
Sometimes pop culture exposes one to something and leads them down a path to realize who they are more so them making them who they are.

This seems to be the case with many, many Otherkin, so I have to say that I agree. :) (Not just of the Eastern persuasion but in general--a lot of Otherkin first got some of their conceptual exposure through Fantasy literature and RPGs and things of that nature.)
criofanfoxchilde on September 24th, 2005 08:57 pm (UTC)
I do agree with pop culture being a big influence in otherkin. Heck If you have now way of understanding what something is than how do you know if you relate to it or not. What I do see a problem with is something similar to the Anne Rice effect that the vamp community experiences.
~The general problem with otherkin I think we have all pointed out at one point or another is that there is now way to prove what a person is or isn’t. Now I don’t want to go out and round up every questionable person out there claiming to be something or another. Heck even if there were a way to test I would find it morally questionable. Determining your kin type is a question of belief. Who am I to make accusations that you are or not a certain thing. The only time it really affects me is when you start a personal interaction with me and can’t justly respond to my questions.
~I think there is a problem with people (namely furries) not understanding that we are not roleplaying being whatever type of kin we are, but actually believe we are that thing.

feyandstrange on September 24th, 2005 02:32 am (UTC)
Moody, bitchy, high maintenance AND obnoxiously cute when I so choose, damnit. ;)

There are foxes and fox-shapeshifters in some Celtic lore as well. A freind gave me a copy of the kids' book Gilly Marin The Fox, which is loosely based on ancient Scottish folklore. THere's also a fox in The King of Ireland's Son", I believe.

The fox-trickster and fox-shapeshifter shows up in various forms all over Europe and Asia, and Native North American folklore as well. It's interesting to see the commonalities between the foxes.

In Native AMerican lore, the fox is known for being able to ignore boundaries, particularly those between the spirit world and the 'real' world. Much the same porosity of borders occurrs for many of the creatures in Celtic legends of Faerie. I can easily see foxes wandering off, saying "Japan? Ireland? Silly humans drawing lines! I was just following a rabbit, I don't pay attention to these silly human lines."
kinjouten on September 24th, 2005 05:17 pm (UTC)
I wonder if....let's not use the Japanese word right now because you make an excellent point, let's say "foxiethingies" for the moment, are just their own nonhuman subspecies which have made their way around the world, and evolved geographically, so to speak? There seems to be precedent for such a thought.
criofan: jfoxfoxchilde on September 24th, 2005 08:19 pm (UTC)
In the process of trying to figure out what I am I searched all over to find information on fox shifters. I have found them mentioned folklore around the world. It is very interesting to see the similarities. I think that all fox shifters are related in some way.
~I believe the thing that separates the Kitsune out is their connection in whatever way to Inari, as a side not here you can trace the Inari legends back to India. Inari was not originally a Japanese deity but they stole it from china. And the Koreans got their lore from either Japan or China I’m not sure anyone has been able to decide that one. So here in a large area you have the tales of Inari spreading. And that’s just one entity. Now foxes have a tendency o be curious. So it would be totally in the realms of possibility for them to have spread from a small local area to cover the world.
~The only place I haven’t seen historical native folklore is in Australia. But foxes didn’t show up there till the late 1800's when the British brought them there for foxhunts. Now other than the dingo they are the top predator down under (I find that highly amusing) but even there fox is starting to show up in some of the newer aboriginal tales.
Mud Pawmud_paw on September 25th, 2005 09:05 pm (UTC)
I have to admit, I think I understant where you're coming from on the whole different cultures pulling you to-and-fro..that's one of my major problems...Celtic and Native American bloodlines (about 50/50-with a touch of Dutch) pull awfully strong against the buddhist tendancies and philosophies I try to embrace...I wish there was an easy way to pay homage too all my ancestors-soul and blood-without any embalance...maybe one day I'll discover a way and the spirits will quiet for a time :)